# Karen Hao exposes how AI bros are building an EMPIRE to control the future

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Podcast: [Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ways-to-change-the-world-with-krishnan-guru-murthy-730381)
Published: 2026-05-22T13:24:45+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/waystochangetheworld/episodes/Karen-Hao-exposes-how-AI-bros-are-building-an-EMPIRE-to-control-the-future-e3jobof
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## Resource

Artificial intelligence is often sold as inevitable — a force that will transform our lives for the better. But Karen Hao believes that story is too simple, and too convenient. An author and journalist, she has spent years investigating the people behind the AI boom. In her book Empire of AI, she argues that the technology is not just being built — it’s being shaped by a small group of companies driven by competition and a desire for dominance. In this episode, Krishnan delves into whether she is now an activist as she continues to challenge the idea that AI’s future is already written. So, who really decides how AI develops — and is it too late to change course?

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