# 'Enshitification' and how big tech is making the internet worse for everyone - Cory Doctorow

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Podcast: [Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ways-to-change-the-world-with-krishnan-guru-murthy-730381)
Published: 2025-12-05T08:46:11+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/waystochangetheworld/episodes/Enshitification-and-how-big-tech-is-making-the-internet-worse-for-everyone---Cory-Doctorow-e3bsvqb
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## Resource

Cory Doctorow has spent decades helping to shape the way we think about the modern internet. He is a campaigner against monopolies, surveillance and digital rights. His new book Enshitification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse and What to Do About It analyses how the internet giants have captured us and become not quite as good as we had thought they were. On this episode of Ways to Change the World, Krishnan Guru-Murthy speaks to Cory about the broken systems we are living in and what we can do to try and make things better. Strong language warning.

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