# 64: Miriam Vogel on “Governing the Machine,” AI Trust, Governance and Global Competition

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Podcast: [Washington AI Network with Tammy Haddad](https://stenobird.com/podcast/washington-ai-network-with-tammy-haddad-6570037)
Published: 2025-11-21T15:47:21+00:00
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## Resource

EqualAI president & CEO Miriam Vogel , co-author of the new book Governing the Machine , joins Washington AI Network founder Tammy Haddad for a timely conversation on AI trust, governance, and global competition. Vogel breaks down the surge in AI litigation, why companies are missing ROI without governance, and how workforce fears are shaping adoption. She argues that America’s long-held advantage in brand trust may be its most powerful asset in the global AI race — if leaders act now.

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