# 172 For the Fallen: First Sgt. Karl Kelley - Indiana DNR

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Podcast: [Warden's Watch](https://stenobird.com/podcast/warden-s-watch-340415)
Published: 2026-05-13T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this National Police Week memorial episode, Wayne sits down with two men who lived through an unimaginable moment when a training exercise turned into a fight for survival. Retired Indiana DNR Lieutenant Colonel Terry Hyndman and First Sgt. Tom Jahn revisit the day they lost their friend and teammate, First Sgt. Karl Kelley, in a swift water incident that still shapes them decades later. It’s a difficult listen at times - but an important one - and a reminder of what service and brotherhood truly mean. “It is not how these officers died that made them heroes; it is how they lived.” ~ National Law Enforcement Memorial, Washington, DC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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