# E381. Attention Span is the New Class Divide - Spencer Klavan

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Podcast: [Walk-Ins Welcome with Bridget Phetasy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/walk-ins-welcome-with-bridget-phetasy-917989)
Published: 2026-03-12T10:00:00+00:00
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Spencer Klavan joins Bridget for a fascinating conversation about why Plato's 2,000-year-old warning about the invention of writing perfectly explains our AI panic, what it's like to invent an entire language for Daily Wire's Pendragon Cycle (and how it made him finally understand Tolkien), and why AI can only reproduce the "outer word" while humans alone possess the "inner word." They discuss how Instagram reels have replaced sitcoms as the shared cultural touchstone for exhausted parents, w...

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