# E368. Freedom is Messy and Hard - John Papola

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Podcast: [Walk-Ins Welcome with Bridget Phetasy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/walk-ins-welcome-with-bridget-phetasy-917989)
Published: 2025-12-11T11:00:00+00:00
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Dad Saves America podcast host, John Papola, joins Bridget for a wide-ranging conversation about everything from the Crusades to life advice for teenage boys. They discuss John’s career trajectory, how he went from MTV, to Spike TV, to documentary filmmaker and ultimately to starting his podcast after COVID hit, why he wanted to take on harder subjects as topics, why 1998 was the peak of Western Civilization, the truth about the production industry, the coolest project he’s ever gotten to wor...

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