# A limited defense of Biden's everything-bagel industrial policy

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Podcast: [Volts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/volts-3501275)
Published: 2026-05-27T16:02:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.volts.wtf/p/a-limited-defense-of-bidens-everything
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This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.volts.wtf/subscribe Conventional punditry loves the narrative that woolly-headed progressive standards over-burdened federal climate spending and slowed everything to a crawl. In this episode, I talk with Betony Jones about her time designing labor policies at the DOE and what she learned from interviewing dozens of companies that received federal funding. We explore the difference between bad rules and weak administrative capacity, how the DOE successfully streamlined century-old Davis-Bacon compliance, and why creating high-quality jobs is essential for global competitiveness.

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