# Episode 220: Centering Listening and Empathy in Civics with Hilary Conklin & Molly Andolina

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Published: 2025-09-15T12:34:22+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2290

## Resource

In episode 220, Dan and Michael chat with Hilary Conklin and Molly Andolina about their new TRSE article titled, “ Toward a more empathic, connected, and humanizing democracy: A civics curriculum centering listening and storytelling.”

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