# Ep 400 - Smoke and Mirrors

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Podcast: [Very Ape Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/very-ape-podcast-5521)
Published: 2026-01-15T01:04:57+00:00
Episode link: https://soundcloud.com/veryapepodcast/ep-400-smoke-and-mirrors
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Duration seconds: 3713

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