# Rates’ Risk, Stock vs. Bond Volatility, and Consumer Color.

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Podcast: [Van Hesser's 3 Things in Credit - A KBRA Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/van-hesser-s-3-things-in-credit-a-kbra-podcast-4507838)
Published: 2026-05-21T16:30:01+00:00
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## Resource

This week, our 3 Things are: Rates’ risk. What does it mean for credit? Stock vs. bond volatility. Something has to give. Consumer color. We canvas bellwether transcripts for an up-to-date view.

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