# "Secrets Are Required for Society" - Why Ex-CIA Officers Fear a 100% Truth Machine

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Podcast: [Valuetainment](https://stenobird.com/podcast/valuetainment-328960)
Published: 2026-07-15T18:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/valuetainment/episodes/Secrets-Are-Required-for-Society---Why-Ex-CIA-Officers-Fear-a-100-Truth-Machine-e3m48j3
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## Resource

Former CIA officers Andrew Bustamante and Sarah Adams tell Patrick Bet-David why no truth serum exists, and what MK Ultra was actually trying to create. Then PBD raises the stakes: what happens if a 100% accurate lie detector hits the market? Their answer reveals why the people trained to keep secrets believe secrets are the only thing holding society together.

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