# Utopian Realpolitik (DS9 S4 : E12 "Paradise Lost")

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Podcast: [V'Ger Please!](https://stenobird.com/podcast/v-ger-please-10011)
Published: 2026-06-03T23:26:00+00:00
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## Resource

When Sisko runs the old Lion in Winter play and Odo lays down karate chops, your hosts go deep on everything from the anatomy of coups to cadet jawlines as we review "Paradise Lost"! This episode really has everything – betrayal, deceit, plucky trickster 'Miles', real coffee, and the true opening moves to a story that is just beginning.

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