# Built In Not Bolted On - The Fighter Pilot’s Guide to Operational Excellence with Jeff "Odie" Espenship

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Podcast: [Utility Safety Podcast by Incident Prevention Magazine](https://stenobird.com/podcast/utility-safety-podcast-by-incident-prevention-magazine-3553918)
Published: 2026-04-01T13:13:00+00:00
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## Resource

Join host Doug Hill and guest Jeff ”Odie” Espenship—former USAF fighter pilot and founder of Target Leadership—for a deep dive into the heart of high-performance safety culture. In this episode, we move beyond ”bolt-on” safety programs to explore how true safety must be built into the daily DNA of an organization. Odie shares powerful lessons from his time in the cockpit, revealing how ”the little things” like miscommunication and complacency are the true leading indicators of tragedy. Whether you are a frontline ”fighter pilot” or a corporate leader, this conversation offers actionable insights on setting high expectations, fostering open communication, and pursuing excellence to save lives. Key Takeaways ”Built In, Not Bolted On”: Safety should not be a secondary add-on; it must be a core, everyday component of how work is performed. Focus on Leading Indicators: Accidents often snowball from ”little things” like snap decisions, shortcuts, or a lack of attention to detail. Leadership at All Levels: Every employee is a ”fighter pilot” on the tip of the spear; leadership is an attitude of influence, not just a title. The Pursuit of Perfection: While perfection may be unattainable, pursuing it is the only way to consistently achieve the operational excellence required in high-risk industries. Overcoming Complacency: Experience can lead to routine, which breeds the ”silent killer” of complacency; constant refocusing is necessary to maintain safety. Questions and Answers Q: What does Jeff ”Odie” Espenship mean by ”the little things”? A: He refers to minor errors—such as skipping a step in a lockout/tagout procedure, using the wrong tool, or miscommunicating a detail—that often go unnoticed but can snowball into major accidents. Q: How can a ”culture of blame” be avoided in…

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