# Can Rebuilding Make a Town Weaker? Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/upzoned-515359/can-rebuilding-make-a-town-weaker Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/upzoned-515359/can-rebuilding-make-a-town-weaker.md Podcast: [Upzoned](https://stenobird.com/podcast/upzoned-515359) Published: 2026-07-08T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://upzoned.strongtowns.org/e/can-rebuilding-make-a-town-weaker/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/vycfbk4ucupkiu6v/UPZ_7-8-26.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/upzoned-515359/episodes/can-rebuilding-make-a-town-weaker Duration seconds: 2983 ## Resource Five years after wildfire destroyed most of Lytton, British Columbia, rebuilding remains slow despite more than $140 million in committed public funding. Norm Van Eeden Petersman talks with Michel Durand-Wood, author of You’ll Pay for This, and Graham Watt, who manages strategic initiatives and flood recovery for Grand Forks, British Columbia. They look at what happens when a small town is pushed to rebuild everything at once, while also dealing with hazardous conditions, limited local capacity, consulting costs, modern codes, and the long-term obligation to maintain whatever comes next. The money creates a promise of recovery, but Lytton shows how hard it is to turn that promise back into a town. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES "Inside Lytton’s contentious recovery, where concerns smoulder 5 years after wildfire" by Brenna Owen, Halifax.citynews.ca (June 2026) Norm Van Eeden Petersman (LinkedIn) Michel Durand-Wood (Site) Graham Watt (LinkedIn) Downzone: The Baby-Sitters Club Human Nature by Kate Marvel (Site) The Blackthorn Key, by Kevin Sands (Site) Theme Music by Kemet the Phantom. This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Thank you! Join fellow members discussing this episode in The Commons. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/upzoned-515359/episodes/can-rebuilding-make-a-town-weaker/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/upzoned-515359/can-rebuilding-make-a-town-weaker.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.