# The untold history of hydrofoiling - a chat with Carlos Saez

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Published: 2026-02-16T04:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/up-on-foil/2550527
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## Resource

If you're a foil nerd like me, you're in for a treat! Thanks to Jens of the Foilsessions App for supporting the show. Get your Foiling App here: https://foilsessions.app Thanks to the team around SurfEars for their commitment. Get yours here: https://6cZKVD.short.gy/surfears Thank you for helping me out and get some hidden episodes: patreon.com/UpOnFoil Check out our Website: www.uponfoil.com Summary In this episode, Carlos Saez shares his extensive knowledge and experience in the world of foiling, discussing his journey through various water sports, the evolution of foiling techniques, and the future of the sport. He emphasizes the importance of community and innovation in foiling, while also addressing the challenges and misconceptions surrounding the sport. In this conversation, Carlos and Matt delve into the evolving world of foiling, particularly focusing on para-winging and its innovations. They discuss market trends, consumer behavior, and the quality of foiling equipment, emphasizing the importance of performance and design. The conversation also touches on the future of foiling, the significance of community, and the growth of foiling sports, highlighting the joy and freedom that comes with being on the water. Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:10 Carlos's Journey into Water Sports 08:18 The Rise of SUP and Its Connection to Foiling 11:01 The Development of Foiling Technology 13:55 The Emergence of Pump Foiling and Its Techniques 19:20 The Influence of E-Foiling and Wing Foiling 19:21 The Future of Foiling and Its Expanding Community 26:13 The Evolution of Foiling Sports 28:59 The Foiling Community and Its Growth 31:37 Understanding Foil Design and Performance 34:20 Transitioning to Winging and Surf Foiling 37:36 The Rise of Parawinging 42:00 Market Trends and Equipment…

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