# Ep 72: Co-Founder of Chai Discovery Joshua Meier on 99% Faster Drug Discovery, BioTech’s AlphaGo Moment, Building Photoshop for Molecules Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/unsupervised-learning-with-jacob-effron-6041643/ep-72-co-founder-of-chai-discovery-joshua-meier-on-99-faster-drug-discovery-biotech-s-alphago-moment-building-photoshop-for-molecules Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/unsupervised-learning-with-jacob-effron-6041643/ep-72-co-founder-of-chai-discovery-joshua-meier-on-99-faster-drug-discovery-biotech-s-alphago-moment-building-photoshop-for-molecules.md Podcast: [Unsupervised Learning with Jacob Effron](https://stenobird.com/podcast/unsupervised-learning-with-jacob-effron-6041643) Published: 2025-08-13T12:45:57+00:00 Episode link: https://unsupervised-learning.simplecast.com/episodes/ep-72-co-founder-of-chai-discovery-joshua-meier-on-99-faster-drug-discovery-biotechs-alphago-moment-building-photoshop-for-molecules-l2bPtBY2 Audio file: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/2c08ad29-5b79-42c0-a40a-6c1af4327f2f/episodes/32b6bac9-6b55-4ac7-8e16-23ea50b13110/audio/95184f9e-d739-4ae9-b08b-313052fd0f11/default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=dOSE_bdP Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/unsupervised-learning-with-jacob-effron-6041643/episodes/ep-72-co-founder-of-chai-discovery-joshua-meier-on-99-faster-drug-discovery-biotech-s-alphago-moment-building-photoshop-for-molecules Duration seconds: 3435 ## Resource In this episode, Jacob sits down with Joshua Meier, co-founder of Chai Discovery and former Chief AI Officer at Absci, to explore the breakthrough moment happening in AI drug discovery. They discuss how the field has evolved through three distinct waves, with the current generation of companies finally achieving success rates that seemed impossible just years ago. The conversation covers everything from moving drug discovery out of the lab and into computers, to why AI models think differently than human chemists, to the strategic decisions around open sourcing foundational models while keeping design capabilities proprietary. It's an in-depth look at how AI is fundamentally changing pharmaceutical innovation and what it means for the future of medicine. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/unsupervised-learning-with-jacob-effron-6041643/episodes/ep-72-co-founder-of-chai-discovery-joshua-meier-on-99-faster-drug-discovery-biotech-s-alphago-moment-building-photoshop-for-molecules/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/unsupervised-learning-with-jacob-effron-6041643/ep-72-co-founder-of-chai-discovery-joshua-meier-on-99-faster-drug-discovery-biotech-s-alphago-moment-building-photoshop-for-molecules.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.