# 174: Your Job Is to Lead, Not to Be Liked

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Podcast: [Unstuck with Jay Abbasi](https://stenobird.com/podcast/unstuck-with-jay-abbasi-7051050)
Published: 2026-06-01T08:00:00+00:00
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Why do so many leaders sacrifice respect in pursuit of approval? Meet Leo. During a meeting with other regional leaders, the conversation turns toward his team's performance. Missed deadlines. Poor follow-through. Lack of accountability. As Leo listens, he realizes the concern isn't just about his team. It's about him. He's well-liked, but other leaders are beginning to question whether he'll enforce standards when it matters most. Leo wants to lead with compassion, but he also wants to be respected, trusted, and taken seriously. Today, Jay sits down with Jason O. Harris, retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, combat pilot, keynote speaker, and creator of the No Fail Trust® Framework. Drawing from decades of military leadership experience, Jason shares practical strategies for building trust, creating accountability, and leading teams without sacrificing humanity. Notable Quotes “Your goal and objective is not to be liked. Your goal and objective is to lead.” — Jason O. Harris “Connection leads to commitment. Commitment leads to accountability. Accountability leads to trust.” — Jason O. Harris “Be the most interested person in the room, not the most interesting person in the room.” — Jason O. Harris About Our Guest Jason O. Harris is a retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, combat pilot, keynote speaker, and leadership expert. Through his No Fail Trust® Framework, he helps organizations build stronger cultures of trust, accountability, and execution. His work focuses on helping leaders create high-performing teams through intentional communication, meaningful connection, and proven leadership principles. Resources & Links Jason O. Harris Website – https://jasonoharris.com/ LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonoharris/ Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jaso…

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