# The House Always Wins?

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Published: 2026-04-08T12:05:12+00:00
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## Resource

Tim and Gina discuss the roulette table of the Art World, and whether you can you pitch a show ?? Also, they go to the Whitney Biennial, the New Museum show, and discuss the idea ‘grow or go.’

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