# Ciao Ragazzi! (Be Gay Do Crime)

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Published: 2026-05-20T12:35:57+00:00
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## Resource

On this totally ad-free episode, Tim and Gina discuss the pornographer of Reston, Virginia, Tim’s upcoming show at Rhizome in Rome, the era of pack and carry shows, residencies, Frieze week in New York, the right way to spend 500k, how an Art Fair is like looking into the abyss, spray and pray, do you have to look like money to make money? Embracing stoic wisdom to sleep at night in the face of Art world inequities and then rejecting it completely when someone copies your work.

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