# Unraveling Me Special Edition

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Podcast: [Unraveling Me](https://stenobird.com/podcast/unraveling-me-7569853)
Published: 2026-02-11T17:47:37+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/unraveling-me/episodes/unraveling-me-special-edition
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## Resource

UM Special Edition – When Adoption Is Framed as a Solution - This conversation is not about debating politics. It is about lived experience, accuracy, and accountability. It centers the voices of those most affected by adoption—and asks what the public deserves to understand when adoption is elevated during moments of national influence. SHOW NOTES:  A Super Bowl commercial titled  Adoption Is an Option  ignited strong reactions among people connected to adoption. Positioned as a “third choice” in the abortion debate, the ad presents adoption as moral workaround to the question of abortion. But for many, the message felt incomplete—and deeply unsettling.   In this special edition of  Unraveling Me , Kara convenes birth parents, adoptees, therapists, and advocates to examine what happens when adoption is framed as a solution rather than a lifelong reality. Together, they unpack the distinction often overlooked in public messaging: abortion is a decision made early in pregnancy; adoption is a permanent legal outcome to an often temporary problem—a choice that should only occur after carrying a child to term and giving birth.   Kara sits down with a powerful group of birth parents, adoptees, therapists, and advocates: Leslie Pate Mackinnon: birth mom, therapist with decades of experience, and board member of  Concerned United Birthparents Dr. Abby Hasberry: birth mom, adoptee, therapist, and author of  Adopting Privilege Jennifer Fahlsing: adoptee, birth mom, and co-founder of the  National Association of Adoptees and Parents Renee Gelin: birth mom and founder of  Saving Our Sisters   Together they discuss: Why adoption and abortion are not answers to the same question What gets erased when adoption is reduc…

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