# Ep. 11 AGI and the Future of Higher Ed: Talking with Ray Schroeder

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Podcast: [Unfixed: How AI Is Reshaping the University](https://stenobird.com/podcast/unfixed-how-ai-is-reshaping-the-university-7342550)
Published: 2025-09-08T07:01:00+00:00
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In this episode of Unfixed, we talk with Ray Schroeder—Senior Fellow at UPCEA and Professor Emeritus at the University of Illinois Springfield—about Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and what it means for the future of higher education. While most of academia is still grappling with ChatGPT and basic AI tools, Schroeder is thinking ahead to AI agents, human displacement, and AGI’s existential implications for teaching, learning, and the university itself. We explore why AGI is so controversial, what institutions should be doing now to prepare, and how we can respond responsibly—even while we’re already overwhelmed.

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