# #42 Roimata Smail

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Podcast: [Unfiltered with Dave Letele](https://stenobird.com/podcast/unfiltered-with-dave-letele-7213949)
Published: 2026-03-21T17:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/geoff-holmes0/episodes/42-Roimata-Smail-e3jsuo5
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Duration seconds: 2455

## Resource

This week, Dave sits down with Roimata Smail — Māori lawyer and author — to unpack Te Tiriti o Waitangi in simple, real terms. From what we’re taught in school, to what actually happened — she breaks down the foundations of Aotearoa, the loss of Māori land, and why it still impacts us today. They also dive into the current state of the country, the backlash we’re seeing, and why education — not division — is the path forward. A powerful, honest kōrero about truth, history, and building a better future together. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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