# Your Work Deserves a Life: Learning to Share Without Fear | Keith Giles & Matthew J. Distefano

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Podcast: [Unconventional Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/unconventional-leaders-6674813)
Published: 2026-01-06T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.heatherparady.com/blog/146
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Duration seconds: 3589

## Resource

Keith Giles and Matthew J. Distefano are authors, publishers, and co-owners of Quoir , a media company dedicated to publishing bold, thoughtful work from people navigating faith, doubt, and deconstruction. Keith is a former pastor turned full-time writer. Matthew describes himself as a “working-class theologian.” Together, they write (and publish) at the intersection of spirituality, culture, justice, and storytelling, helping creatives give language to ideas that don’t fit neatly into inherited belief systems. In this conversation, we talk about what it actually means to share your work when you’re still evolving…when certainty is gone, relationships are at stake, and false humility can quietly keep your work hidden. WATCH EPISODES ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/heatherparady   TOPICS FROM THIS EPISODE: Creating when your beliefs and opinions are evolving Why promoting your work isn’t ego (and how false humility keeps good ideas buried) Leading without hierarchy, rejecting guru culture, and embracing mystery CONNECT WITH KEITH & MATTHEW: Quoir’s Website: https://quoir.com/ Keith’s Website: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/   Matthew’s Website: https://www.allsetfree.com/ Heretic Happy Hour: https://open.spotify.com/show/7v6veXaOTdcfQOfA9H39tO?si=1bcdd0e76d62480b   CONNECT WITH HEATHER: Follow Heather on IG: https://www.instagram.com/heatherparady/   Access Full Show Notes Here: https://www.heatherparady.com/blog/146

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