# Sam Lyman Puts 70% Odds on Clarity Passing Before Recess Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/unchained-728975/sam-lyman-puts-70-odds-on-clarity-passing-before-recess Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/unchained-728975/sam-lyman-puts-70-odds-on-clarity-passing-before-recess.md Podcast: [Unchained](https://stenobird.com/podcast/unchained-728975) Published: 2026-07-15T00:28:00+00:00 Episode link: https://pdrl.fm/98e0b1/traffic.megaphone.fm/LSHML2404985766.mp3 Audio file: https://pdrl.fm/98e0b1/traffic.megaphone.fm/LSHML2404985766.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/unchained-728975/episodes/sam-lyman-puts-70-odds-on-clarity-passing-before-recess Duration seconds: 571 ## Resource Austin Campbell draws a parallel between the AI data center backlash and the decades-long collapse of US nuclear power, then Sam Lyman of the Bitcoin Policy Institute puts real odds on whether the Clarity Act passes the Senate before August recess. Hosts: Austin Campbell, Host of Bits + Bips, Founder of Zero Knowledge Group, and Adjunct Professor at NYU Stern Ram Ahluwalia, Co-host of Bits + Bips and CEO of Lumida Chris Perkins, Co-host of Bits + Bips and Head of Franklin Crypto Guest: Sam Lyman - Head of Research at the Bitcoin Policy Institute This clip is from a longer conversation on foreign funded opposition to AI data centers and the odds of the Clarity Act passing. Full episode here: https://youtu.be/-xbSniveaQU  We go live every Monday - subscribe to catch it live. Sponsor Cape: Your biggest crypto vulnerability isn't your wallet, it's your phone number. Cape is America's privacy-first mobile carrier that rotates your SIM identity daily and blocks SIM swaps before they happen. Get 33% off your first six months at https://cape.co/unchained  (use code: UNCHAINED). Chapters: 🏗️ 00:00 Austin compares the AI backlash to nuclear power's collapse, citing Indian Point 🧭 01:21 Sam calls nuclear the ideal analogy: a problem we solved, then banned 🏠 02:10 Why Sam says AI's real opposition comes from inside the house 👷 02:37 The blue-collar AI boom: construction jobs, electricians, and data centers 🗳️ 04:07 Ram says political leadership, not just technology, has to show up 🎯 05:15 Sam puts Clarity's odds at 70% before August recess ⏳ 06:55 Why the August recess deadline is the real driver of momentum 📉 07:38 Sam's odds drop to 35 to 40% if Congress doesn't act in the next few weeks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/unchained-728975/episodes/sam-lyman-puts-70-odds-on-clarity-passing-before-recess/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/unchained-728975/sam-lyman-puts-70-odds-on-clarity-passing-before-recess.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.