# How not to get fired (from the world’s leading expert)

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Podcast: [Uncensored CMO](https://stenobird.com/podcast/uncensored-cmo-257995)
Published: 2026-03-30T00:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://ucmo.transistor.fm/254
Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/161ac5a6/8b3345ad.mp3
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Duration seconds: 1263

## Resource

Getting fired is one of the most humbling experiences in business, and one of the most instructive. In this episode, Kory and Jon get candid about the times they've been let go, what went wrong, and the hard-won lessons that followed. Jon in particular has a story or two to share (including getting fired twice in 18 months), and between them they unpack what it really takes to survive and thrive in high-stakes leadership roles. Get Uncensored Renegades every week: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/uncensored-renegades/id1868870960 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7qnkqq0XSpgif9A5ZNgSpX?si=f181c3a0e9af480c Timestamps 00:00 - Start 01:22 - What Jon learned from being fired twice 03:35 - How not to get fired 08:20 - How to understand your boss (so you don’t get fired) 10:50 - Align yourself with the company, not just personal goals 13:11 - How Jon got fired for the second time in 18 months 16:12 - Are you the right person to work for a high growth company? 17:50 - Be careful where you get hired

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