# Trump's 80s Movie Approach to Foreign Policy w/ Chris Hayes

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Podcast: [Uncanny Valley | WIRED](https://stenobird.com/podcast/uncanny-valley-wired-827527)
Published: 2026-03-24T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

For the first episode of our second season, Katie sits down with fellow journalist Chris Hayes, host of MS NOW’S All In , to talk about covering the news and capturing attention during an all-consuming news cycle. And the Trump administration's performance of imperialism as content. Hayes also talks about his book , The Sirens’ Call : How Attention Became the World’s Most Endangered Resource . Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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