# Ep 1358 | Matt Chandler & the Robertsons Call Out the Fake Gospel of Instant Fixes

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Podcast: [Unashamed with the Robertson Family](https://stenobird.com/podcast/unashamed-with-the-robertson-family-649973)
Published: 2026-06-18T20:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3366

## Resource

Jase, Al, Zach, and Christian sit down with Matt Chandler, lead pastor of The Village Church and author of “Becoming Like Jesus,” to talk about Matt’s rough childhood, the church camp that changed his life, and why following Jesus is usually slower, messier, and more painful than people expect. Jase remembers taking a beating instead of fighting back and watching the man who attacked him later come to church wanting to hear about Jesus. The guys also dig into why suffering can expose what God wants to heal, and why the church is still the place where flawed people learn to love — and sometimes simply tolerate — one another. In this episode: Luke 15, verse 17; Hebrews 12, verse 2; Isaiah 61, verse 3; Matthew 5, verses 3–12; Psalm 27, verse 4; 1 Corinthians 15, verses 1–2; 1 Corinthians 6, verses 9–11; Exodus 13, verses 17–18; Romans 5, verses 3–5; James 1, verses 2–4 “Unashamed” Episode 1358 is sponsored by: https://chministries.org/unashamed — Get a better solution at half the cost of traditional healthcare! https://vanman.shop/unashamed — Get 15% off your first order with code UNASHAMED https://www.wildalaskan.com/UNASHAMED — Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood delivered right to your door. http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters 00:00 The Best Thing About…

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