# Networking and Referrals, the Forgotten Marketing Channel

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Podcast: [Un-Billable Hour: Business Management Strategies for the Busy Lawyer Around the Community Table](https://stenobird.com/podcast/un-billable-hour-business-management-strategies-for-the-busy-lawyer-around-the-community-table-1071413)
Published: 2026-02-24T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/un-billable-hour/2026/02/networking-and-referrals-the-forgotten-marketing-channel
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## Resource

A part of the legal marketing landscape we don’t talk about enough is referral marketing. Sure, we focus on digital marketing, search engines, and paid advertising. But maybe one of the best – and cheapest – forms of marketing could be referral marketing, working with other layers who know, like, and trust us. Guest John Reed is a former practicing attorney and the founder of Rain BDM, a marketing firm that helps lawyers build exceptional relationships. Hear how professionals learn and play “the referral game.” Asking for referrals may not feel natural, even a bit awkward. But like any marketing campaign, it can be planned, initiated, and tracked. And it can be fun and rewarding. Don’t try to make a relationship “transactional,” just go out and meet and help people. Let it be more relaxed and natural. Hear about the “four questions” and a personalized “grid” plan that can get the ball rolling when you meet another attorney. If you’ve struggled with building intentional relationships with other attorneys and expanding your network, you’ll want to hear this free “relationships 101” lesson from a proven, experienced pro. Mentioned in This Episode: “Endless Referrals” by Bob Burg “Never Eat Alone” by Keith Ferrazzi

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