# What if THEY are US? Did We Create the Simulation? UAP Files Podcast S4|E13 (EXCERPT)

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Podcast: [UAP Files Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/uap-files-podcast-6879941)
Published: 2026-04-13T18:27:40+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/uapfiles/episodes/What-if-THEY-are-US--Did-We-Create-the-Simulation--UAP-Files-Podcast-S4E13-EXCERPT-e3g3k8o
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Duration seconds: 495

## Resource

The following is an excerpt from a conversation with author and consciousness researcher Anthony Peake. Anthony explores the boundaries between science and the unexplained — from déjà vu and altered states of consciousness to UFO encounters and the possibility of non-human intelligence. In his book The Hidden Universe, he suggests that reality may be far more complex than we perceive — potentially involving multiple dimensions and deeper layers of consciousness. Today we’ll be talking about the nature of reality, the mystery of consciousness, and whether humanity might be interacting with intelligences beyond our understanding. In this episode I am joined by my co-host Tom Vernon from Tom Vernon UAP (YouTube). Want to support the channel? Please consider buying me a coffee ☕️ https://buymeacoffee.com/uapfiles LINKS Anthony Peake's Website https://www.anthonypeake.com UAP Files Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/uap_files?igsh=enRvNG5reGowd2w%3D&utm_source=qr Tom Vernon YouTube https://youtube.com/@tomvernonuap?si=KcU7Lkcnne_m23Ze #ufo #uap #anthonypeake #uapfiles #uapfilespodcast #consciousness #nde #lifeafterdeath #simulationtheory

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