# Can moderate Democrats take control of the party?

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Podcast: [Tying It Together with Tim Boyum](https://stenobird.com/podcast/tying-it-together-with-tim-boyum-18822)
Published: 2026-05-13T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/charlotte/politics/tying-it-together-with-tim-boyum
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## Resource

On this week's episode, Tim talks about a group of center-left Democrats trying to make waves as partisanship continues to dominate the electorate. His guests are Debbie Cox Bultan, CEO of NewDEAL, and Canton Mayor Zeb Smathers. The national group held a conference in Raleigh and stopped by while in town. NewDEAL is a network of center-left elected leaders who are self-described pragmatists focusing on expanding opportunity and spurring growth. Alums of the group include Pete Buttigieg, Josh Shapiro and Stacey Abrams.

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