# Howard Bryant: Author, "Kings and Pawns: Jackie Robinson and Paul Robeson in America"

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Podcast: [Two Writers Slinging Yang](https://stenobird.com/podcast/two-writers-slinging-yang-662001)
Published: 2026-01-27T15:33:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jeff-pearlman9/episodes/Howard-Bryant-Author--Kings-and-Pawns-Jackie-Robinson-and-Paul-Robeson-in-America-e3e540u
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Duration seconds: 4156

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On what America misunderstands about Jackie Robinson and needs to understand about Paul Robeson. On what history can teach us about 2026 madness. On why the mythology of Branch Rickey is a departure from reality. On the modern approach to book PR.

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