# Episode 3: Joy Taylor Gets Real with Les Alfred ABOUT Peace, Pressure & Purpose

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Podcast: [Two Personal with Joy Taylor](https://stenobird.com/podcast/two-personal-with-joy-taylor-6822659)
Published: 2026-04-09T16:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Joy Taylor is joined by Les Alfred for a conversation about discipline, clarity, and the difference between being busy and being productive. They discuss how easy it is to fall into the trap of scrolling and calling it work, why it’s important to get honest about what’s actually moving you forward, and the value of knowing what you want to say before focusing on anything else. Les also shares advice for young women navigating their careers and building something meaningful with intention. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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