# The Joy and Challenges of Writing at 4 AM in a Backyard Shed: Author of KISSED BY THE GODS Caty Rogan’s Take On Being Self-Published to Traditionally Published Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/two-chicks-and-a-plot-twist-7115287/the-joy-and-challenges-of-writing-at-4-am-in-a-backyard-shed-author-of-kissed-by-the-gods-caty-rogan-s-take-on-being-self-published-to-traditionally-published Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/two-chicks-and-a-plot-twist-7115287/the-joy-and-challenges-of-writing-at-4-am-in-a-backyard-shed-author-of-kissed-by-the-gods-caty-rogan-s-take-on-being-self-published-to-traditionally-published.md Podcast: [Two Chicks and a Plot Twist](https://stenobird.com/podcast/two-chicks-and-a-plot-twist-7115287) Published: 2026-06-05T03:08:49+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mccayleigh-daniels/episodes/The-Joy-and-Challenges-of-Writing-at-4-AM-in-a-Backyard-Shed-Author-of-KISSED-BY-THE-GODS-Caty-Rogans-Take-On-Being-Self-Published-to-Traditionally-Published-e3kc40m Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/fd2f50b4/podcast/play/121032150/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-5%2F425545649-44100-2-0691df987d16c.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/two-chicks-and-a-plot-twist-7115287/episodes/the-joy-and-challenges-of-writing-at-4-am-in-a-backyard-shed-author-of-kissed-by-the-gods-caty-rogan-s-take-on-being-self-published-to-traditionally-published Duration seconds: 1853 ## Resource Most aspiring authors dream of translating their stories from self-published gems to traditional publishing success, but what really happens behind the scenes? Caty Rogan, author of Kissed by the Gods , pulls back the curtain on her extraordinary journey from indie author to traditional publisher. She shares exactly how she navigated this transition, the surprises and challenges she faced, and why her story is a testament to the power of community and control in today’s publishing industry. Follow Caty Rogan on Social Media! Instagram: @catyrogan https://www.instagram.com/catyrogan?igsh=MTZmMG1rOHVmZ3I5aQ== Website: https://catyrogan.com/ 📖 Join our Virtual Book Club: https://fable.co/club/two-chicks-and-a-plot-twist-with-two-chicks-and-a-plot-twist-487984389220 **Be sure to check out the All Things Book Related Facebook group for more bookish fun: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/share/g/17qrT2kDux/⁠⁠ 💬 Let’s Connect: Follow us on social media for updates and more bookish content and giveaways: Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/twochicksandaplottwist/⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61567707466670⁠⁠ Linktree: ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/TwoChicksandaPlotTwist?utm_source=linktree_profile_share⁠ 🎧 Subscribe & Stay Tuned: Don’t miss our upcoming episodes where we’ll discuss more of our book club reads and chat with amazing authors. Hit that subscribe button and turn on notifications! Interested in being a guest? Sign up using the link below! ⁠⁠https://forms.gle/PKrwrwJihdf7Jhgu6⁠⁠ 💫 A Note From Us At Two Chicks and a Plot Twist, we believe stories are for everyone. While we may feature books by authors with varying views, our platform is rooted in respect, curiosity, and the joy of reading. Thanks for being here. Let’s keep it cozy, curious, and kind. 💛 ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/two-chicks-and-a-plot-twist-7115287/episodes/the-joy-and-challenges-of-writing-at-4-am-in-a-backyard-shed-author-of-kissed-by-the-gods-caty-rogan-s-take-on-being-self-published-to-traditionally-published/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/two-chicks-and-a-plot-twist-7115287/the-joy-and-challenges-of-writing-at-4-am-in-a-backyard-shed-author-of-kissed-by-the-gods-caty-rogan-s-take-on-being-self-published-to-traditionally-published.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.