# How OpenAI Builds AI Agents That Think and Act with Josh Tobin - #730

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Podcast: [The TWIML AI Podcast (formerly This Week in Machine Learning & Artificial Intelligence)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/twiml-ai-podcast)
Published: 2025-05-06T22:50:00+00:00
Episode link: https://twimlai.com/podcast/twimlai/how-openai-builds-ai-agents-that-think-and-act/
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## Resource

Today, we're joined by Josh Tobin, member of technical staff at OpenAI, to discuss the company’s approach to building AI agents. We cover OpenAI's three agentic offerings—Deep Research for comprehensive web research, Operator for website navigation, and Codex CLI for local code execution. We explore OpenAI’s shift from simple LLM workflows to reasoning models specifically trained for multi-step tasks through reinforcement learning, and how that enables agents to more easily recover from failures while executing complex processes. Josh shares insights on the practical applications of these agents, including some unexpected use cases. We also discuss the future of human-AI collaboration in software development, such as with "vibe coding," the integration of tools through the Model Control Protocol (MCP), and the significance of context management in AI-enabled IDEs. Additionally, we highlight the challenges of ensuring trust and safety as AI agents become more powerful and autonomous. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/730.

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