# 20VC: Wix's Founder on What Wall St Gets Wrong About AI and Wix | Will Base44 Win the Vibe Coding Wars | The Truth About the Economics of Vibe-Coding | The Buyback Disaster: Lessons Learned with Avishai Abrahami

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Published: 2026-07-13T07:07:00+00:00
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## Resource

Avishai Abrahami is the Co-Founder and CEO of Wix, the NASDAQ-listed website creation platform serving millions of businesses worldwide. Today, Wix generates more than $2BN in ARR and has a market capitalization of approximately $2.1BN, after reaching a peak valuation of $17BN over the past two years. The company also acquired Base44, one of the fastest-growing AI application-building platforms, scaling it to $150M in ARR in record time. AGENDA: 00:00 The SaaS Apocalypse: What Does Wall Street Still Not Understand About Wix? 07:00 Is the Market Valuing Wix's Core Business at Less Than Zero? 12:55 Will AI Kill Wix... or Make Base44 Bigger Than the Entire Company? 19:15 "You Are NOT Going to Vibe Code Shopify" — Why Everyone Is Getting AI Wrong 23:00 Would You Really Pay $80M for a One-Person Startup? 24:15 The Buyback Disaster: Would Avishai Do It All Again? 31:00 Why Every AI Customer Support Startup Keeps Failing (According to Wix) 37:00 Should a 22-Year-Old Still Learn to Code in the Age of AI? 42:20 Has AI Been Overhyped? Avishai's Most Controversial Prediction Yet 49:00 The Hardest Lessons on Leadership, Marriage & Building Through Chaos

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