# 233: 'Spaces For People To Kiss', with Mariusz Hermansdorfer

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Podcast: [TRXL](https://stenobird.com/podcast/trxl-889287)
Published: 2026-07-01T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://trxl.co/233
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## Resource

Mariusz Hermansdorfer joins the podcast to talk about turning an internal tool into a product for the whole profession. We explore how he spun Jifto out of Henning Larsen as the firm's first ever tech spin-off, why letting go of corporate control was the thing that made it possible, and how a Rhino plugin can put wind, stormwater, and microclimate analysis in the hands of architects who never had a specialist team to call. This episode is especially relevant for firm leaders and computational designers who are sitting on tools they've built in-house and wondering whether they could, or should, take them to market. If you've ever felt the gap between how designers think and how engineers deliver, or wondered what it really takes to spin a product out of a practice, this one's for you. To learn more about Mariusz Hermansdorfer, see the full show notes with links at https://trxl.co/233 To get more great conversations with AEC technology leaders on the TRXL podcast please visit https://trxl.co _____ Episode Sponsors: Part3 Part3 is a modern construction administration platform built for architects. Whether your firm runs CA on Procore or email and spreadsheets, Part3 automates submittals and RFIs, delivers field reports from the job site, and protects every decision with a full audit trail. Book a demo at https://part3.io AVAIL AVAIL's content management system (CMS) simplifies access to your firm's content in one easy-to-use platform. Search and access files from anywhere, create standards-compliant models, streamline documentation, and onboard new hires faster. Try AVAIL for free and request a demo at https://getavail.com Confluence Events & Podcast Join AEC industry technology leaders at Confluence, a series of in-person events and a podcast fostering conversations…

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