# 223: 'They Better Find Something Else to Do', with Pablo Zamorano Mosniam Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/trxl-889287/223-they-better-find-something-else-to-do-with-pablo-zamorano-mosniam Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/trxl-889287/223-they-better-find-something-else-to-do-with-pablo-zamorano-mosniam.md Podcast: [TRXL](https://stenobird.com/podcast/trxl-889287) Published: 2026-03-18T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://trxl.co/223 Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a1ba52ca-f3ff-4651-b641-00b7d2ac3990.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/trxl-889287/episodes/223-they-better-find-something-else-to-do-with-pablo-zamorano-mosniam Duration seconds: 4764 ## Resource Pablo Zamorano Mosniam joins the podcast to talk about what it looks like to build a technology practice around design values rather than the other way around. We explore the “door scale,” the intimate layer of texture and touchable detail that most firms skip and Heatherwick obsesses over, why tools leave recognizable fingerprints on the buildings they produce, and how the studio's most-used internal AI tool turned out to be the one that required the least training to adopt. This episode is especially relevant for computational designers, design technologists, and firm leaders watching the industry accelerate toward faster, cheaper, and blander — and wondering whether the right response is better tools, clearer values, or both. Pablo doesn't soften his view: the people waiting on the sidelines won't find a comfortable place to land. To learn more about Pablo Zamorano Mosniam, see the full show notes with links at https://trxl.co/223 To get more great conversations with AEC technology leaders on the TRXL podcast please visit https://trxl.co _____ Episode Sponsors: AVAIL AVAIL's content management system (CMS) simplifies access to your firm's content in one easy-to-use platform. Search and access files from anywhere, create standards-compliant models, streamline documentation, and onboard new hires faster. Try AVAIL for free and request a demo at https://getavail.com Confluence Events & Podcast Join AEC industry technology leaders at Confluence, a series of in-person events and a podcast fostering conversations between firms and tech companies to support innovation. Learn more, explore upcoming events, and listen to podcast episodes at https://confluence.getavail.com TRXL+ Membership This episode of TRXL is brought to you by TRXL+ members! Join our community of supp… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/trxl-889287/episodes/223-they-better-find-something-else-to-do-with-pablo-zamorano-mosniam/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/trxl-889287/223-they-better-find-something-else-to-do-with-pablo-zamorano-mosniam.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.