# S18 Ep21: Justine van der Leun - Unreasonable Women

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Published: 2026-05-24T09:50:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8906401
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## Resource

Justine, who wrote and hosted the Believe Her podcast, returns to the show to discuss her latest work. Justine is an award-winning independent journalist and author. Her latest book, Unreasonable Women , will be published in June 2026 by Ecco. Justine’s prior books include We Are Not Such Things , and her features have been published in the New York Review of Books , New York Magazine , Harper’s , the Guardian , VQR , and TheNew Republic , among others. Justine is also the host and co-producer of the investigative podcast Believe Her . She has been honored with the James Aronson Award, the Sigma Delta Chi Award, the Gracie Award, the iHeart Radio Award, the Mike Berger Award, and the Ambie Award. Justine has received grants from the Pulitzer Center, Type Investigations, the International Women’s Media Foundation, and the Robert B. Silvers Foundation, and fellowships from New America, the Emerson Collective, the Sustainable Arts Foundation, the Logan Nonfiction Program, Type Media, and PEN America. Unreasonable Women releases on June 2nd. Please consider pre-ordering the book HERE The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community. To join Patreon , click THIS LINK . At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES , Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game” , which drops every Wednesday. Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today’s Sponsors: Rula – Head to Rula.com/justice to get started Quince – Head to Quince.com/Ruff for free shipping and 365 day returns. Factor Meals - Head to Factormeals.com/truth50off and use code "truth50off" to get…

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