# What Comes Next for Wicklander-Zulawski — and Why the Foundation Matters with Nate Frazier

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Podcast: [Truth Be Told](https://stenobird.com/podcast/truth-be-told-6819668)
Published: 2025-12-27T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://truthbetoldwz.podbean.com/e/what-comes-next-for-wicklander-zulawski-%e2%80%94-and-why-the-foundation-matters-with-nate-frazier/
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## Resource

In this special episode of Truth Be Told, Dave Thompson, CFI is joined by Nate Frazier—Founder and CEO of Red Knot Capital—and the thinking behind Red Knot’s acquisition of Wicklander-Zulawski. Through stories that span forensic interviewing, global leadership, mergers, and crisis management, Nate shares why Wicklander’s legacy, science-based methodology, and commitment to humanity made it a natural fit. This conversation isn’t just about a transaction—it’s about trust, stewardship, and what it looks like to honor a 40-year foundation while positioning a respected institution for its next chapter. If you care about communication, leadership, and doing difficult work the right way, this episode sets the tone for what’s ahead. Check out the press release here: Red Knot Capital Acquires Wicklander-Zulawski: Global Leader in Investigative Interviewing; Dave Thompson, CFI Named CEO - Wicklander-Zulawski Learn more about WZ Training for your professional development! This acquisition is about stewardship, not disruptionNate is clear that Red Knot’s role is to protect what already works at Wicklander-Zulawski while giving the company the support and resources to evolve responsibly—not to change its DNA or dilute its values . Nate’s career path mirrors the Wicklander mindsetFrom forensic interviewing roots to leading massive organizations through mergers, crises, and turnarounds, Nate’s journey reinforces a core WZ belief: strong communication, preparation, and empathy scale at every level—from interviews to boardrooms . Investigative interviewing skills are leadership skillsThe episode draws a direct line between rapport-building, behavioral baselines, and influence in investigations—and the same skills used to lead teams, negotiate acquisitions, and guide organizations throu…

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