# True Spies Debrief: Miles Johnson on Intelligence and Organised Crime

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Podcast: [True Spies: Espionage | Investigation | Crime | Murder | Detective | Politics](https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-spies-espionage-investigation-crime-murder-detective-politics-364993)
Published: 2026-05-12T07:01:00+00:00
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## Resource

True Spies producer Morgan Childs joins author and Financial Times reporter Miles Johnson for a debrief on the international intelligence community's relationship to organised criminal groups. Miles' investigative journalism has unearthed frightening findings about the connections – and crimes – made possible by our globalized world. From SPYSCAPE, the home of secrets. A Cup And Nuzzle production. Series producer: Joe Foley. Produced by Morgan Childs. Miles Johnson is the author of Chasing Shadows: A True Story of Drugs, War and the Secret world of International Crime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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