# True Spies Classic: You Me, Same Same | CIA

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Podcast: [True Spies: Espionage | Investigation | Crime | Murder | Detective | Politics](https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-spies-espionage-investigation-crime-murder-detective-politics-364993)
Published: 2026-04-07T07:01:00+00:00
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## Resource

Ryan Hillsberg can be whoever you want him to be. As a CIA case officer, he recruited assets for the Agency by transforming himself into their ideal companion - a confidante par excellence. But maintaining a degree of professional detachment isn't always easy, as you'll discover in this classic episode of True Spies. From SPYSCAPE, the home of secrets. A Cup And Nuzzle production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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