# Siders 16 Kids: What One More Day Would Have Cost Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/siders-16-kids-what-one-more-day-would-have-cost Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/siders-16-kids-what-one-more-day-would-have-cost.md Podcast: [True Crime Today | Daily True Crime News & Interviews](https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948) Published: 2026-07-28T20:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8932927 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audioboom.com/posts/8932927.mp3?modified=1785177167&sid=5001260&source=rss Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/episodes/siders-16-kids-what-one-more-day-would-have-cost Duration seconds: 1107 ## Resource A search warrant tied to an unrelated matter brought deputies to a house on Ohmer Street in Hamden, Ohio. They came out with sixteen children, ages eighteen months to eighteen years, and arrested four adults: the grandfather, the grandmother, the father and the mother. Each was charged with sixteen counts of endangering children, and all four have pleaded not guilty. The next day, Ohio's attorney general put a timeline on it in public. Based on what he had seen, he said, waiting a specific amount of time longer carried a very high probability of a death or multiple deaths of those children. Retired FBI special agent Robin Dreeke joins Tony to work through what kind of thinking produces a house like that. Dreeke ran the Bureau's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, and his entire career has been about understanding motivation rather than reciting it. The sheriff said the children were kept for most of four years in a room about twelve feet by twelve feet, and that most of the livestock in his county was kept in better conditions. The attorney general called the conditions almost indescribable. The defense frame is completely different. Elizabeth Siders' attorney says this is poverty and isolation rather than evil, and that evil requires malice. He also says his client is the mother of all sixteen children. She was fifteen in 2008 when a judge signed off on her marriage to an eighteen-year-old. Court records show more than one teenage marriage in this family across two generations. The school district has no record that any of the sixteen were ever enrolled. Investigators say the family avoided building medical and government records for nearly two decades. END_LINKS Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/episodes/siders-16-kids-what-one-more-day-would-have-cost/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/siders-16-kids-what-one-more-day-would-have-cost.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.