# How Did the Kouri Richins Verdict Land for the PI Who Built the Case? Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/how-did-the-kouri-richins-verdict-land-for-the-pi-who-built-the-case Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/how-did-the-kouri-richins-verdict-land-for-the-pi-who-built-the-case.md Podcast: [True Crime Today | Daily True Crime News & Interviews](https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948) Published: 2026-05-28T21:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8905885 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audioboom.com/posts/8905885.mp3?modified=1779290817&sid=5001260&source=rss Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/episodes/how-did-the-kouri-richins-verdict-land-for-the-pi-who-built-the-case Duration seconds: 1329 ## Resource Under three hours. That's how long the jury deliberated before convicting Kouri Richins on all counts — aggravated murder, attempted aggravated murder, forgery, insurance fraud. Judge Mrazik sentenced her to life without parole and told the courtroom she's "simply too dangerous to ever be free." For Todd Gabler, the man who spent over a year building the evidentiary foundation that helped make that conviction possible, the verdict wasn't just a legal outcome. It was the end of a case that pulled him across a line he'd never crossed in 34 years. Every homicide he'd ever worked was for the defense. This was the first time his evidence became the prosecution's weapon. And when it was over — when the verdict dropped and the sentence came down — Gabler had to reckon with what the case had done to him. In the final part of this three-part interview, Gabler tells Tony Brueski what hit him first when the jury came back, who Eric Richins became to him after a year of reconstructing a dead man's life, and whether this is the kind of case a PI walks away from — or the kind that walks with him. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advic… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/episodes/how-did-the-kouri-richins-verdict-land-for-the-pi-who-built-the-case/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948/how-did-the-kouri-richins-verdict-land-for-the-pi-who-built-the-case.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.