# 16 Siders Kids: What If This Case Isn't Rare At All?

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Podcast: [True Crime Today | Daily True Crime News & Interviews](https://stenobird.com/podcast/true-crime-today-daily-true-crime-news-interviews-568948)
Published: 2026-07-17T00:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8928600
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## Resource

Every few years one of these cases surfaces — Turpin, Fritzl, now Siders — and every time, the coverage treats it as a once-in-a-generation aberration. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott spends this full-length conversation dismantling that comfort. Her position is blunt: sealed families are not rare. Sealed families getting discovered is rare. And the Siders case proves it, because nothing discovered them — a misdemeanor warrant stumbled into them. The complete interview covers all three layers of the case. The perpetrator layer: compartmentalized double lives, a three-generation family system, and the disturbing arithmetic of Elizabeth Siders' pregnancies — possibly twenty of them, starting at thirteen. The child layer: what eighteen years in one room does to language, cognition, and identity, and what the Turpin children's rocky aftermath predicts for these sixteen. The community layer: the psychology of noticing-without-acting that let store employees catalogue warning signs for years while never dialing a number. If Scott is right — if these families exist in every county and the only rare event is the accident that exposes them — then the question this episode leaves behind isn't about the Siders family at all. It's about the house near you. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information…

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