# Mewgenics Is Out, And It Only Took 14 Years (with Edmund McMillen)

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Podcast: [Triple Click](https://stenobird.com/podcast/triple-click-613834)
Published: 2026-02-12T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/triple-click/
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Jason, Kirk, and Maddy bring on veteran game designer Edmund McMillen (Binding of Isaac, Super Meat Boy) to talk about his latest game, Mewgenics, which was first announced in 2012 (!) and is out this week. They talk about the long development cycle, why McMillen parted ways with his Team Meat partner Tommy Refenes, breeding cats, and much much more.

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