# Small Barriers, Big Impact: Rethinking International Development

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Podcast: [Trending Globally: Politics and Policy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/trending-globally-politics-and-policy-745507)
Published: 2025-10-01T17:27:00+00:00
Episode link: https://trending-globally.captivate.fm/episode/small-barriers-big-impact-rethinking-international-development
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## Resource

Bryce Steinberg is a development economist, which means she studies how lower-income countries grow into more prosperous ones. More specifically, she studies how to help people in low-income countries build their “human capital” — a phrase social scientists use to describe things like getting more formal education, more professional training, or improving your health. As she tells Dan Richards on this episode of Trending Globally, part of the answer is well-understood. “ We have to build the schools, we have to build the clinics, we have to get the roads, get the infrastructure in place so that people can access these things,” Steinberg explains. However, decades of development policy has made clear that access alone doesn’t solve the problem, and supplying communities with such resources doesn’t necessarily mean people will use them. Why not? That’s what Steinberg studies. On this episode, Richards talks with Steinberg about her research, which seeks to better understand what she calls the “demand-side” of development policy: What makes people actually use the services that are available to them, and how to remove the barriers that stand in their way. They also discuss how development policy has evolved over the last few decades and how, with the dismantling of USAID, it may be poised to change once again.

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