# Ep. 322: Pastors Leading Through National Holidays

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Podcast: [Trench Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/trench-talk-4428)
Published: 2026-04-21T20:20:33+00:00
Episode link: https://practicalshepherding.com/trenchtalk/322
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## Resource

Contact us . We’d love to serve you Give financially to support the work of helping pastors thrive Write a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Explore taking a renewal retreat at The Shepherds House (01:40) Framing the Church Calendar Discussion (02:38) Regulative vs. Normative Principle of Worship (06:08) Cultural Context & Story of July 4th (07:40) Processing the July 4th Conflict (09:56) Seeking a Middle Way on National Holidays (11:01) Honoring but Not Centering National Holidays (13:54) Practical Alternatives to Holiday-Centered Services (15:15) Examples of Ignoring Christmas/Easter (18:52) Jim’s Practice: Christmas, Easter, & Thanksgiving (21:50) Why Thanksgiving Feels Most “Biblical” (23:09) Traditions Without Judgment (24:44) Mother’s Day as a “Sacred Cow” (26:24) Pastoral Pressures & Pain Around Mother’s Day (28:07) Managing Expectations & Training a Congregation (29:21) Principle: Pastoral Care Over Personal Preference (30:23) Broader Reflections on Traditions (32:18) St. Patrick’s Day, Other Minor Days

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