# CO-HOST | Make Money by Betting on Yourself (Lessons from Tony Hawk's $4M Royalty Deal)

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Podcast: [Travis Makes Money](https://stenobird.com/podcast/travis-makes-money-756579)
Published: 2026-05-13T09:15:00+00:00
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Host Travis and producer Eric dive into an in-depth discussion about Tony Hawk's legendary decision to turn down a $500,000 buyout from Activision in favor of royalties on the Tony Hawk Pro Skater video game franchise. They explore the financial wisdom behind knowing when to bet on yourself versus taking guaranteed money, and how keeping your lifestyle expenses low creates the flexibility to take calculated risks. On this episode we talk about: Tony Hawk's decision to reject a $500,000 buyout from Activision before the launch of Tony Hawk Pro Skater in 1999 How the franchise went on to generate over $1.4 billion in sales and earned Hawk royalties in the eight-figure range The importance of keeping lifestyle expenses and burn rate low to maintain financial flexibility Why financial stability allows you to take bigger risks on opportunities that could have outsized rewards The challenge of determining when to bet on yourself versus taking guaranteed money upfront Top 3 Takeaways Keep your lifestyle burn low to maintain flexibility. Tony Hawk was able to turn down $500,000 because he had manageable expenses, good endorsements, and a profitable skate company. Low expenses give you the freedom to take calculated risks without being handcuffed by financial constraints. Ask yourself: "If this fails, will I still be okay?" The decision to bet on yourself should depend on whether you can survive the worst-case scenario. If failure means losing everything, take the guaranteed money. If you can weather a downturn, the upside may be worth the risk. Focus on whether you'll regret not taking the risk. Rather than trying to predict the future, consider whether you'll regret passing on the opportunity. Make the best decision you can with the information available, then accept the resu…

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