# Transformation Is Like Gardening, From CIO to AI Champion, Get the Receipts β€” How to Vet a System Integrator Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/transformation-ground-control-digital-transformation-erp-implementation-change-management-and-digital-strategy-2137508/transformation-is-like-gardening-from-cio-to-ai-champion-get-the-receipts-how-to-vet-a-system-integrator Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/transformation-ground-control-digital-transformation-erp-implementation-change-management-and-digital-strategy-2137508/transformation-is-like-gardening-from-cio-to-ai-champion-get-the-receipts-how-to-vet-a-system-integrator.md Podcast: [Transformation Ground Control: Digital Transformation, ERP Implementation, Change Management, and Digital Strategy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/transformation-ground-control-digital-transformation-erp-implementation-change-management-and-digital-strategy-2137508) Published: 2026-07-15T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://transformationgroundcontrol.podbean.com/e/transformation-is-like-gardening-from-cio-to-ai-champion-get-the-receipts-%e2%80%94-how-to-vet-a-system-integrator/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/2h3xcttf5ipb6sde/Ground_Control_Episode_2819h48b.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/transformation-ground-control-digital-transformation-erp-implementation-change-management-and-digital-strategy-2137508/episodes/transformation-is-like-gardening-from-cio-to-ai-champion-get-the-receipts-how-to-vet-a-system-integrator Duration seconds: 7107 ## Resource The Transformation Ground Control podcast covers a number of topics important to digital and business transformation. This episode covers the following topics and interviews: Transformation Is Like Gardening From CIO to AI Champion (Veteran Tech Leader Chris Clark) Get the Receipts β€” How to Vet a System Integrator We also cover a number of other relevant topics related to digital and business transformation throughout the show. πŸ”— Resources Discussed in this Episode: ORDER MY NEW BOOK: Welcome to the Machine: https://lnkd.in/g-AYwpW7 CONTACT MY TEAM & I: https://www.thirdstage-consulting.com/contact-us/ FOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: megan.shaull@thirdstage-consulting.com Try the Free LinkedIn Personal Branding Challenge: https://www.roloffconsulting.com/eric Contact Marcus Harris at Taft Law: https://taftlaw.com/people/marcus-s-harris πŸ”— More Digital Transformation Resources: 2026 AI Report: https://www.thirdstage-consulting.com/reports/ai-that-works-in-2026/ 2026 Digital Transformation Report: https://resource.thirdstage-consulting.com/2026-digital-transformation-report 2025 Digital Transformation Report: https://www.thirdstage-consulting.com/reports/2025-digital-transformation-report/ ERP Project Recovery Guide: https://www.thirdstage-consulting.com/reports/erp-project-recovery-guide/ 20 Lessons from 1,000 Digital Transformations: https://www.thirdstage-consulting.com/reports/ebook-20-lessons-from-1000-erp-implementations/ 2025 Guide to AI Strategy & Implementation: https://www.thirdstage-consulting.com/reports/guide-to-ai-strategy/ Executive Guide to Digital Strategy and Implementation: https://www.thirdstage-consulting.com/reports/executives-guide-to-digital-transformation/ Business Transformation Playbook: https://www.thirdstage-consulting.com/reports/trans… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/transformation-ground-control-digital-transformation-erp-implementation-change-management-and-digital-strategy-2137508/episodes/transformation-is-like-gardening-from-cio-to-ai-champion-get-the-receipts-how-to-vet-a-system-integrator/transcription-requests` β€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/transformation-ground-control-digital-transformation-erp-implementation-change-management-and-digital-strategy-2137508/transformation-is-like-gardening-from-cio-to-ai-champion-get-the-receipts-how-to-vet-a-system-integrator.md` β€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.