# Suno's Mikey Shulman: Everyone Can Make Music Now

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Published: 2026-05-13T18:55:00+00:00
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## Resource

Most music platforms assume you're a listener. On Suno, 90% of daily users make something. Founder and CEO Mikey Shulman explains why that flips the model: the act of creating IS the entertainment, with closer parallels to gaming and Claude Code than to Spotify. He breaks down the technical bets that got them here — modeling raw sound waves instead of encoding music theory, choosing autoregression over diffusion to prioritize full songs over crisp clips, and why music isn't a scale problem the way LLMs are. He also shares why partnering with Warner matters more than disrupting the record labels, what a truly interactive Coachella might look like, and why he thinks the digital music experience is finally due for its first real change in 25 years. Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital

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